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The Gundiah Mackay Abduction Milieu

A preliminary report by Bill Chalker and Diane Harrison AUFORN Director



An extraordinary and controversial milieu has developed around events that reportedly began late on the evening of Thursday, October 4th, 2001, at a Gundiah property near Tiaro, culminating in the early hours of Friday, October 5th, 2001, and then played out in the glare of rapidly escalating media coverage.

Three people were directly involved in these alleged events. Keith Rylance (40), his wife Amy (22), and their business partner, Petra Heller (39) were on their property, which was being developed as "Whispering Winds" winery. Other potential activities were also being developed at the location. The following account comes from interviews conducted by us with them, along with primary source material such as TV interviews.

Keith Rylance told us that he had gone to sleep in the caravan bedroom at about 9.30 pm. Petra retired to her bedroom in the caravan annex. Amy stayed on a couch watching TV in the caravan annex "lounge room". Each of these locations were in close proximity, separated by a window and wall respectively from the lounge room. Petra’s room had a door leading to the lounge room, which was left ajar. The door to the bedroom, where Keith was, apparently was open to the lounge room. Amy apparently fell asleep on the couch. A storm was in the area.

Around 11.15 pm, Petra was reportedly woken up and when she entered the adjacent lounge was confronted by an extraordinary sight, that allegedly quickly overwhelmed her. A rectangular beam of light was being projected through the open window of the caravan lounge room. This light beam appeared to be truncated at the end. Inside the beam Petra claims to have seen Amy in a sleep prone position, being carried out head first through the window. Underneath her, also within the beam were the items that had been on the coffee table adjacent to the couch Amy had been on. Before apparently fainting in shock Petra saw that the beam was coming from a disc shaped UFO hovering just above the ground a short distance away, near a tree at the rear of the clear section, immediately behind the annex caravan house.

Petra reports she believes she was only in a faint for a very short period of time. Regaining consciousness, she began screaming. Keith reports that he was awoken by the commotion coming from Petra. As he came from the caravan bedroom and stepped down into the lounge room annex Keith claims he was confronted by the sight of a highly agitated Petra and the contents of the coffee table on the floor in front of the window. He told us that he soon realised that the window screen was torn in both a vertical fashion and along the bottom of the window frame. Keith indicated that initially he couldn’t get any sense out of Petra who was crying and very agitated, so he rushed outside trying to locate Amy. She was reportedly nowhere to be found. Keith states when he started to be less agitated himself he was eventually able to get from Petra an idea of what happened. Keith claims he initially refused to believe what Petra was telling him. He said he rushed outside again trying to find his wife. Eventually as the situation became clearer, Keith indicates he decided to call the police.

Keith call the Tiaro police around 11.40 pm reporting that his wife had been abducted and imploring that the police should come out. The manning status at that time meant there were some delays in the police coming out, but about hour and a half after the initial call Senior Constable Robert Maragna from Tiaro and an officer from Maryborough arrived at the site. Initially police thought they might have been walking into a situation involving foul play, even perhaps a murder scene, but then the bizarre circumstances of the alleged events came into focus. The two people, Keith and Petra, at the Gundiah property were claiming that Amy Rylance had been abducted by a "spaceship"! The officers were struggling to keep an open mind. They were joined later by Sgt. John Bosnjak, the officer in charge of the Tiaro police. He had been asleep when the police called him to assist in the investigation.

The three officers continued their investigations at the site. They confirmed that Keith Rylance and Petra Heller appeared to be in an agitated state and that there was no sign of Amy Rylance. The torn screen was examined. A flowering bush, commonly known as "yesterday, today, tomorrow" was located immediately outside the left side of window, had indications of possibly being affected by heat or another mechanism along its right side. Oddly another flowering bush, a hibiscus, located immediately on the right hand side of the window area was not affected in the same way. The police took samples for possible later testing.

While the police were at the property, a phone call came through, which was taken by Keith Rylance. A woman was calling from Mackay indicating that she had taken a somewhat distressed and apparently dehydrated young woman from a BP petrol service station on the northern outskirts of central Queensland city of Mackay, some 790 kilometres to the north of the Gundiah – Tiaro area. The young woman turned out to be Amy Rylance, and the female caller was ringing to advise that Amy was apparently all right and was at the Mackay hospital, where she had been examined by a doctor. Keith handed the phone to Snr. Constable Marangna.

Given these extraordinary circumstances Mackay police were called in, making a total of three police stations involved in the investigation – Tiaro, on outskirts of central Queensland, Maryborough on the coast and Mackay, some 790 kilometres to the north of the Gundiah – Tiaro area.

A statement was notarised by the Mackay police with a Justice Act acknowledgement, that required Amy to acknowledge that she had stated was true to the best of her knowledge and belief, and that if it is admitted as evidence, that she may be liable to prosecution if she had indicated anything in it that she knew was false.

This statement indicated that she last only recollected lying on the couch at the Gundiah property. She had no recollection of the events that Petra described, but claimed she then next remembered waking up lying on a bench in a strange rectangular room. Illumination came from the walls and the ceiling. She was alone. She indicated she called out and heard what seemed to be a male voice, asking her to be calm and that everything would be alright and that she would not be harmed. Soon an opening appeared in the wall and "a guy" about 6 feet tall walked into the room. The man appeared to be slender in build but in perfect proportion, covered head to foot in a full body suit. He had what seemed to be a black covering mask on his face, with a hole for his eyes, nose and mouth. He repeated his calming assurances. Amy felt she had been there a while. The guy told her they were returning her to a place not far from where they took her from, because the lights were wrong at the property and it wasn’t safe. She then indicates she found herself lying on the bed and falling asleep. The next thing she recollects is that she woke up on the ground with trees around her. She felt disorientated, could smell the ocean, and indicated she was not sure how long she tumbled through bushland, but seemingly it was for a long time, but she felt she wasn’t making much progress. She then came out onto a road that looked like a highway and saw a light from a petrol station. She walked into the station, where staff seeing her state, tried to offer some assistance. She accepted some water, as she felt somewhat dehydrated. Initially she was not able to answer identifying questions, and didn’t know where she was. She was also asked if she had been drinking or was on drugs, to which she said no. Amy indicated she felt tired, sore, drained and lethargic. She asked a woman at the service station to take her to the hospital, as she didn’t know of where else to go. The woman and her friend took Amy to the hospital. Later Amy spoke with two police officers and also spoke with her husband Keith from the hospital. She then went to Mackay police station where she gave the statement of events. Amy also indicated that this sort of thing had never happened to her before, but when she was in 5th year school she had seen a large UFO surrounded by smaller objects.

The police arranged to put Amy in a motel pending the arrival of her husband. He and Petra arrived during the day and indicated they spent considerable time with Amy discussing what happen. Extensive notes were apparently made and photographs were taken of a triangular arrangement of marks on her inner right thigh, marks on each heel and the growing out of her hair which she had dyed earlier in the week. Her hair had apparently started to show her former colour, suggestive that some considerable time had passed for her, apparently indicative of rather more than a few hours. Body hair had allegedly also become somewhat more pronounced that would otherwise would be apparent for the short time involved.

Via a Newsagent’s a copy of the Australian Ufologist magazine was purchased, Keith, Petra and Amy started to learn more about UFOs. Keith Rylance contacted the Australian UFO Research Network office number mentioned in the magazine. Diane Harrison took the call Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:20 p.m. and for the next hour or so listened to the story that Keith and Amy told. Petra was apparently sleeping at the time.

Given the nature of the story, its complexity and the fact it apparently featured the alleged use of "solid light", Diane decide to bring Bill Chalker into the investigation, making contact with him during the evening of Friday, October 5th. Paradoxically Bill was scheduled to talk at a Brisbane UFO conference on October 13th, and his topics included "solid light" cases and the application of science to alien abduction cases. Bill put a call through to them at the motel, securing permission to record the conversation. Once again Petra was not available to talk about her part in the alleged events. Keith Rylance went into considerable detail about the events, referring often to the notes they had apparently been compiling during the day. The details described covered the events Petra had witnessed, what Keith had experienced, and what Amy told them had happened to her during her experience.

Finally Bill spoke with Amy, focusing mainly on the events before and after the claimed onboard experiences, because Keith had already gone into considerable detail about the latter. Bill discussed with Amy her general responses and her physical state and her current state of thought on her experiences. Keith Rylance seemed to what to control how both media and investigators would get involved. His desire to contact the media promptly drew from both Diane and Bill the suggestion that he should think very carefully about the possible ramifications of doing so. Keith seemed to feel that it was important to get the story out, as it would come out anyway and this way he could control the way it did. He was also trying to restrict the way the investigators could or should look into their experience. He claimed they didn’t need to prove the experience. While he didn’t directly witness the experiences, he believed both Amy and Petra.

Given the possible nature of the event, and that irrespective of the ultimate resolution of the affair, it seemed destined to be a big story, Diane and Bill decided to undertake an investigation. They had been given an indication from Keith Rylance that the three would wait for the investigators to come to Mackay. The claimants were in no apparent hurry to return to Gundiah. They gave permission for Bill and Diane to visit the property on the way. Bill arrived in the Brisbane area on Tuesday afternoon, October 9th.

Diane and Bill then travelled to Gundiah, arriving at the Whispering Winds winery property, just after 10 pm. Because of the lateness of the hour, we got the witnesses permission to stay there overnight and to conduct whatever investigation we needed to do. Keith had arranged for a neighbour to regularly check on the two pets left behind, namely a parrot and a kelpie dog. He indicated to us that it would be okay to let the dog off for a run, but warned us it was very friendly but inclined to jump all over people.

We let the dog off at some point and observed its behaviour. At one point it did jump up on the window where the damaged screen was located. This gave some support to the possibility that at least some, if not all of the damage, could have been caused by the dog. Some of the damage on closer inspection seemed suggestive of possible dog damage. Our inspection of the plant damage also suggested possible prosaic causes, such as heat stress. A plant at the front of the house had similar damage and a healthy flowering bush of the same species that was at the window, was examined by us at Mount Basset lawn cemetery has similar damaged. A gardener there we spoke to indicated that the species often had random or more extensive damage of a heat stress nature from hot sunlight. The prosaic possibilities for both the screen and the plant damage are only suggestive at this point and further investigation is required.

We undertook extensive investigations at the property and the area. Police were very helpful. Our investigation generated many issues and questions, which we feel need resolution, in order to assist interpretations of these events. Further extensive investigations were undertaken in Mackay, focusing in particular at the area where Amy Rylance returned. These included attempts to reconstruct the circumstances of Amy’s return, through onsite research. The BP petrol service station staff were spoken with and surveillance videotape that may contain Amy’s visit there was provided to us by the station owner. This part of our investigation also generated many issues and questions that need resolution if we are to approach any measure of certainty about the real nature of the events alleged.

Keith Rylance indicated to us he would be available to us when we got to Mackay, but it was made clear to us early on the first day of our investigations there that this wasn’t probably going to be the case. When we contacted the motel where they had been the night before, their third motel in Mackay, we learned they had apparently already checked out that morning. We left messages on their phone but didn’t hear from Keith until early on the afternoon of our second day, as we were leaving Mackay. In his mobile call, Keith apologised for not being available, but was indicating they had relocated to an unspecified location after having fled the area. The primary reason for this Keith indicated was that they claimed they had a kind of "men-in-black" experience. In this case, Keith was reporting a pursuit of their vehicle by a high-powered dark brown 4-wheel truck. The nature of this event apparently frightened Keith, Amy and Petra, prompting Keith to attempt to loose the vehicle and eventually leave the area.

Before the completion of this preliminary report (14th October) we have heard from Keith again. We remain hopeful that they will get into more direct contact with us.

This affair is both extraordinary and controversial. Many have rushed to judgement, but given its complex and evolving dynamics, caution and patience is necessary. We have many issues and questions we would like to try to resolve. Further contact with the Rylances and Petra Heller may help this process. The case is far from closed and requires an objective, open-minded investigation. Only time will give us the possibility of resolution and certainty about this intriguing but controversial affair.


Still under investigation

GUNDIAH ABDUCTION INTERVIEW
TRANSCRIPT OF TODAY/TONITE REPORT

Transcript by Mike Farrell

T/T - Petra, can you start by telling us what you saw on Thursday nite?

Petra - I woke up to a light in the room-

Question 1: Who’s room, you’re bedroom or the living room or outside. ? and I thought what’s that? - it’s a bit strange-and I got up to look where it comes from

Question 2: At what time was this. ? and what it is-I walked out thru the door-and there it was-I seen Amy- on a beam of light

Question 3: What colour was the light. ?
Question 4: What kind of light was it example: solid light/ misty light. ?

being carried out the living room window into a really huge ship outside!

Question 5: Which window.?

T/T - When you say it and you speak of a beam of light-how would you
describe that?

Petra - Well, it was a very bright light which was holding her in the air-

Question 6: Can you give an example of how bright the light was.?
Question 7: How far off the ground was Amy floating aprox.?

and she was in a sleeping position-heads towards the window- going out-

Question 8: What position was her body example: curledup fetal position/ lying streched out.?
Question 9: What side was she lying on. Left or Right ?
Question 10 Could you see her face YES NO if Yes did she have her eyes open or closed.?
Question 11: What was Amy waring.?

T/T - How did it get her thru the window-was the window open?

Petra - The window was open-yes-

Question 12: How did the window become open.?
Question 13: Did you know the window had a key lock.?

T/T - Have you ever seen any visions before?

Petra - No, no, no-that’s something new to me-I haven’t seen something like that before-

Question 14: Do you have an interest in the Startrek.? YES NO if No who owned the audio taped story in your room of Startrek the Inserrection. Question 15: Did you know that the story is simular to Amy’s and it relates to missing time in which hours can seem like days gone by.?

T/T - Had you been drinking or taking drugs?

Petra - No, I don’t take drugs at all (incredulous laugh) I’m just a normal person-

Question 16: Did you drink any of the fosters beer which was bought that night from the local pub.?
Question 17: Did you take the remander of the beer with you to Mackay as there was only a six pack left in the fridge.?

T/T - So what was your reaction when you saw this? What did you do?
Did you reach out to help her?

Petra - No, I couldn’t-I was shocked! I couldn’t believe it-I fainted-
I fell down on the floor ( then-it was completely out of my mind-)

Question 18: What did you mean in the above statement.?

I just tipped over-
Question 19: Where did you fall example: In your bedroom door way behind the couch.?
Question 20: How far away from Amy was you standing when you fainted approx.?

and a few minutes later-I came to myself-

Question 21: At what time was this approx.?

I screamed-I called out for Keith to tell him-I didn’t know what to do at that point-

Question 22: Where was Keith and what did he say or do.?

T/T - What do you think it was?

Petra - Well, I’ve seen what it was (incredulous laugh)! It was right outside the window-

Question 23: Which window.?

Question 24: How far of the ground was the object.?
Question 25: Did you see Amy go into the ship.?
Question 26: Did you see anyone.?
Question 27: How big was the ship approx.?

I saw (raises hands for emphasis)

Question 28: What colour was it.?
Question 29: Did it have window’s
Question 30: Did it have lights.?
Question 31: Did it make a noise.?
Question 32: Could you smell anything.

I’ve seen the ship-so I thought well-there’s life in the universe that took her-

Question 33: Did you see it take Amy.?
Question 34: Was this before you fainted or after you fainted?
Question 35: How long was your observation for.?

because it was a ship like nothing I’ve seen before- nothing from Earth-so-it was from outer space!

T/T - Do you believe in UFOs?

Petra - Well, I do now !!!

T/T - You didn’t know about UFOs before?

Petra - I wasn’t "really" into that subject before

Question 36: Did you have any understanding of Unidentified Flying objects. UFOs. YES or NO if Yes please explain.?
Question 37: What did you mean by Quote: I wasn’t into it really.?

-haven’t really thought deeply into it.

Question 38: When did you think about it.?

-but-I know now-that it’s real !! (incredulous laugh) I believe in it now because I’ve seen it-and I know what I saw!

Question 39: What did you see.?

T/T - Skeptics would say that this is impossible-what’s your message for them?

Petra - It’s not impossible! How could it be impossible when I’ve seen it?

T/T - And what did you do after you came to and you screamed and Keith came up to you-did you race outside? What evidence did you
get?

Petra - Well, I was completely frightened and shocked and told him it was hard for me to explain it to him-I couldn’t speak clearly and it took me awhile to convince him

Question 40: How long afterwards time if possible please.?

-because he didn’t want to listen to me

Question 41: Why didn’t Keith Listen to you.?

-he was calling out for Amy-he was going out and running around and looking for her-and I said- no, no, no, I’ve seen it! I’ve seen it! Then he called the police-we didn’t know what else to do-

Question 42: At what time did Keith Call the police.?

T/T - Was there any evidence that this happened? Was anything misplaced?

Petra- Yes, there were several items on the table which were beneath her and hovering also in the air

Question 42: Was this before you saw the UFO.

and after I woke up-they were down there on the floor and the window screen was ripped and outside the window there’s a flower bush that had kind of burn marks on it it had dry leaves and so on-

T/T - Like a fire ignited it?
Petra - Yes, like something ignited it, yes-

T/T - Ok, let’s move on to Amy-

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T/T - Do you remember any of this happening?

Amy - No, I don’t-I don’t remember being taken and I don’t remember being dropped off-I was asleep when it happened-the first thing I remember is waking up being in a completely different room-like nothing I’d ever seen before-

T/T - Where did you wake up?

Amy - I woke up on the ship in a strange room-it was completely different-I was on a bed-there was nothing else in the room-it was quite bright-but when I looked around there was nothing there-the light seem to come from the walls-I felt like I was dreaming to start with-until I kind of brought myself out of that-

T/T - When you say "ship"-do you mean spaceship?

Amy - Yes!

T/T - You believe you were on a spaceship?

Amy - I know I was on a spaceship! I recall everything that happened to me while I was there-I remember it all-in my reality-I was there for about seven days before I was returned-my memories are clear and distinct in my mind-I have no conflicts as to what happened to me-

T/T - Do you recall people? or alien life forms?

Amy- Yes, Yes-There was one man-I call him a man-I don’t call him an alien-he looked just like a man to me-he was in a full body suit and he had a mask over his face-it didn’t look like a normal mask-it had large eyes and a small opening for his mouth-he was just like a normal man-exactly in proportion-same human body shape-

T/T - Do you believe in aliens and UFOs?
Amy - I do now! I definitely do now!!

T/T - and you didn’t before?

Amy - Well, I wasn’t sure-just like everybody else-it was just something that people talked about-that people had experiences and things- but now I’ve had the experience-I know myself!

T/T - It must be very hard to convince people to believe you-do you have any evidence that you could have been transported to another dimension?

Amy - The only physical evidence I have are the "marks"-from the tests\ that they did on me-

T/T - What sort of tests?

Amy - Just getting kind of DNA samples and also a normal bodily functions sort of test-they wanted to know how we work-basically

T/T - Were you scared?

Amy - I was to start with-I was quite scared to start with-I had contact with this man-he was very calming and he had a very soothing effect-and he told me they weren’t going to hurt me in any way- or do anything bad to me-so it wholly a good experience from my point of view-

T/T - had you been drinking or taking any drugs that night?

Amy - No, no-I don’t do anything like that-

T/T - And where did you wake up in this world?

Amy - When I was returned-I woke up somewhere over there (referring to Mackay)-it was all full of bushes and trees and stuff like that-it was somewhere near the ocean-I had no idea where I was-I was disoriented and I was scared and all I wanted to do was find somebody so I knew that I was safe and I was alright-and I wasn’t too far away-I had no idea how long I was gone for in this time-cause to me I was gone for seven days.


T/T - We’re you examined at the base hospital and what did they find? What did they say about your markings?

Amy - Ah-they didn’t look for any markings-the doctor just kind of pushed on my stomach and they took my blood pressure-they thought I was on drugs to start with-the only thing she did say was that I was dehydrated and I was malnourished-because I hadn’t been drinking or had anything to eat for the last week-and hair was growing all over me-and I can’t stand being hairy-(laughs a little)

T/T - From the time that you went to sleep in Tiaro (near Gundiah) and and woke up in Mackay-how long was that period?

Amy - That was-about 3 hours-

T/T - And you didn’t hop in a car-you didn’t drive-you didn’t get a bus?

Amy - I don’t drive-There’s no possible way for me to get there in three hours-I don’t drive-I can’t fly-I can’t hire a plane-I can’t catch a train-it’s not physically possible for me to get here (in Mackay) in 3 hours-

T/T - What was the reaction of police and hospital authorities?

Amy - The police were a bit sceptical when they got involved-but after after they saw everything and spoke to everybody-they’re outlook completely changed-the hospital staff weren’t quite as willing-like I said-they thought I was on drugs or needed medication-or something like that-but once the police were involved-their attitude changed-the police here were quite good-but they had all the facts before they came-so-

T/T - Ok, let’s talk to Keith now-

T/T - You obviously didn’t see Amy-

Keith - No

T/T - What evidence did you see?


Keith - When I first ran out into the living room-the first thing I noticed was the screen ripped and the window open and all the parts of the coffee table in the exact order they had been on the table were laying on the floor underneath the window-But then I was busy handling Petra who was very upset and what I thought was hysterical and she couldn’t speak and I started screaming for Amy and ran around for awhile and when Petra then convinced me of what she’d seen-I have to believe her-she’s a very straight person and very honest-when I finally went out to look on the outside-the flowering bush was actually fried to a crisp exactly in half-the one half next to the window-that was the main thing that made me think what Petra was telling me was correct-because that was my favourite bush-very beautiful flowers all over it and exactly down one half-there was a huge rainstorm that just happened-a big electrical storm-and the flowers and leaves were crispy-dried to an absolute crisp-not like after a fire-that was one of the things the police thought was very strange and also the parts on the floor from the coffee table-

T/T - Were you a sceptic before this?

Keith - I wasn’t either way, you know-I understand a little about physics and astronomy-so I know the size of the universe-mechanically and scientifically-about this-you know-it’s a personal experience subject-

T/T - Emotionally-how did you react to the reports of your wife?

Keith - I freaked out! I freaked out completely-I went mental-running around-screaming for her-but after I believed Petra-which I did after about 5 minutes-I called the police-the police took an hour and a half to get to the house-in their scepticism-with delay after delay-the majority of that time I was outside with a pair of
binoculars looking up at the sky-because I knew my wife was gone-and Amy doesn’t go anywhere-I know her-she just wouldn’t go anywhere-so-

T/T - So you seriously believe that your wife was abducted by aliens?

Keith - I know that she was-because there’s no other way she could have been brought up here (in Mackay)-it’s impossible-you’d need a high performance jet plane to get her up here in the time-and I saw her-well-the last time I technically saw her was 9:30 pm in the evening-and just after midnite-she’s up here which is about 800 kilometres away-

T/T - We’ve got three people standing by this story-no one of you were drinking or taking hallucinogenic drugs?

Keith - We don’t do anything like that-we don’t have any drugs-I drink- I have the occasional beer-but drugs and drinking wouldn’t put somebody 800 kilometres away-it doesn’t matter if we were all on hallucinogenic drugs and drinking-that still wouldn’t put Amy 800 kilometres away and it wouldn’t put those marks on her leg-

T/T - How does this change your life then-if you believe that this has happened?

Keith - Well, it’s not a matter if I believe-I know what happened-we’re just coming to terms with it-we’re sort of staying in our hotel and trying to figure out what we want to do-whether we want to go back or not (to Gundiah)-and whether we want to continue doing what we’re doing or-I’m not sure at this point-

T/T - Is that why you’re here-or are you scared to return to Tiaro (near Gundiah) ?

Keith - The girls are a little bit scared-I’m not scared as in fear-of course- I didn’t see anything-Amy’s not frightened-but Petra’s more frightened because she saw the actual ship itself-

T/T - Police are investigating-but what can they do if it’s true that aliens are responsible for this? What power do they have? What’s the point of their investigation?

Keith - Well, the police would, I imagine, in any part of the world- would always arrive at a point where if the evidence was good towards it-they would stop investigating it-cause, of course- then the police would have to acknowledge the existence of aliens from another planet-and no police would be prepared to do that-

Keith - so-no matter how much they investigate it-if there was physical evidence-which there is!-they’re never going to acknowledge the existence of aliens-typically-like the Americans deal with it- I’ve done a lot of surfing on the Internet these last few days- looking at the subject-and that seems to be typical of it-they stop
investigating because then they have to acknowledge that they’re real-so they would never-the investigation would always deadend-

T/T - Can you understand why it’s hard for people to believe this stuff?

Keith - Personal Knowledge-same as anything that’s bizarre-if you don’t see an object floating in the air yourself or be close to those that it’s happened to with knowledge and belief-then-it’s not a matter
of belief-it’s a matter of personal knowledge!

T/T - Do you hope it never happens again?

Keith - I suppose-yes-I don’t know about Amy-for Amy-after the initial fear-it was a great experience-she interacted with a nice person- it doesn’t matter where they’re from-you know-for seven days- so-I hope it doesn’t happen in that way again-

T/T - Thank you-

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(after formal interviews-additional comments during background filming-extreme wind and auto noise made most comments undiscernible)

Keith - When I spoke to the hospital-the police were shocked- Amy wasn’t just dehydrated-she was extraordinarily dehydrated and starving and covered in mud from head to toe-and the lady doctor was beyond a sceptic-she was in absolute total denial- they didn’t want to keep her at all-they wanted to send her home
right away on the bus-the police in Tiaro (near Gundiah) couldn’t believe that they weren’t going to keep her-and even though I tried to explain to the lady doctor on the telephone-that we were friends of the mayor here-I’m building a motorcross stadium- a skateboard arena and motorcross speedway-one of our best
friends is the mayor (of Tiaro)-